Creationism vs Evolution
So, what do YOU belief? Is there a Supreme Being? Or is life simply the result of evolution? Creationism has gotten a lot of flack from evolutionists, however evolution is just as difficult to factually prove as creationism. So, which is true? C
Posted By eastwind on September 18, 2007
Evolution or Adaptations does exist. Creatures CHANGE to fit their envi...
Posted By DiamondLips on September 21, 2007
Evolutions have many flaws. One is that Life started from nothing at on...
Posted By eastwind on September 19, 2007
there is actual scientific evidence that supports the theory of evolutio...
Posted By jhall85 on September 19, 2007
Creationism has more validity than evolution. There is an order everywh...
Posted By Kliflosises on September 19, 2007
Obviously Creationism is the truth here, there is too much in this world alone that proves there is
Creationism has more validity than evolution. There is an order everywhere. Order = Intelligence
-- Posted By Kliflosises on September 19, 2007There are too many reoccurring laws in nature for life to be random. The golden section for instance occurs everywhere in life. That denotes an organized universe. Order is intelligence and therefor there is an overseeing government.
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The bible is the greatest load of idiocy I have ever encountered. Don't go saying that I've never read it, because I have, I just haven't bothered memorizing where a bunch of useless passages are. The bible labels people who do not believe in God or his word as 'fools.' Are you aware that some of the greatest minds of our time were Atheists or otherwise? If it weren't for many of these 'fools' your life would be far more difficult because you would have less than half of the things you use today, in fact, many historians believe there wouldn't even be a USA.
Looking around me, I do not see design. I see a bunch of mismatched crap. If the human body is perfect, why do we have so many useless parts? There are muscles we don't even use in our chest, ears, and legs. What about the appendix, what exactly was your omnipotent deity thinking there? 'Gee, I'll just slap this little tail on here. What good fun that will be.' When I baby is born with its heart outside its body, is that god's divine and loving work? When a baby is born with its upper lip fused to its nose, is that him also? When a baby is born with its lungs too small for it to breathe, is God telling the world, 'I love you all oh so much.' I don't understand how a perfect, omnipotent all loving being can perform such atrocities.
Evolutions have many flaws. One is that Life started from nothing at one point. What wasn't was.
-- Posted By eastwind on September 19, 2007"The cell needs all its basic parts with their various functions, for survival; therefore, if the cell had evolved, it would have meant that billions of parts would have had to come into existence at the same time, in the same place, and in order.
Evolution might have evidence, but not enough to validate it, and definatly not MORE evidence that Creationism. the thing is, self research on this topic is lengthy or EITHER side.
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Remove "THE BIBLE" and "YOUR CHURCH" from the equation. Where is your evidence?
The Bible has been proven to be - at least misinterpreted legends and mythology - if not downright plagiarism from the birth, life, death, and rebirth of the legend of OSIRIS!
Your CHURCH is most likely one that takes "offerings" and "saves" people and bases 90% of its practices and teachings on THE BIBLE or those who wrote things based on THE BIBLE - or even those who wrote things based on the things written by those inspired by THE BIBLE...
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The Creation theory is displayed at the very beginning of the Bible - starting at Genesis 1:1. By many believers, this account was never questioned. For some, it remains definite. Why does man exist? Because God created him.
Evolutionists, however, pose a different theory. Charles Darwin fathered the evolution theory, which he first proposed in the 1930s. Ever since, people have been arguing about which version of events is actually the correct one.
“Modern” Christianity is almost one thousand years old, making evolution, by comparison, a newfangled idea. History seems to support the creation theory - perhaps more people have believed in this longer. The court system, however, does not.
Circuit Court, District Courts and even the U.S. Supreme Court have made definitive decisions on the creation versus evolution issue. In 1987, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that it is “unconstitutional” for Louisiana schools to teach the evolution theory only when accompanied by the creation theory, “creation science,” as it undermines education. (Edwards v. Aguillard 482 U.S. 578)
The Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that a school district was well within its rights to prohibit teachers from instructing in creation science, which advocates religion. (Webster v. New Lenox School District #122, 917 F. 2d 1004).
Many more cases and many more decisions could easily be presented, but they all add up to the same thing: the creation theory, however it is labeled, has no place in public schools. The evolution theory, however, is considered to be more than acceptable curriculum. Some religion experts will even agree that evolution is an undeniable fact (“Creation or Evolution? Yes! Interview by Stan Guthrie,” Christianity Today, January 12, 2007).
The evolution theory, is considered to be a theory in name only. Scientific experts seem to largely agree that it is a cold, hard fact. And though not all aspects of evolution and the history of evolution are fully understood, overwhelming evidence shows that it is more than a mere idea (“Evolution is a Fact and a Theory,” Laurence Moran, January 22, 1993).
Science, reason and fact support the side of evolution - even some of the highly religious will do the same. Faith often supports the side of Creation - but when held up against certain undeniable facts, even faith can fall flat. In fact, the Catholic Church itself has admitted that Evolution can have a place in religion, too (“Evolution and faith complementary: Cardinal Levada,” CathNews, March 5, 2009). There actually is no argument between creation versus evolution - evolution is a fact, creation is a belief and there is no comparison between the two.
It's 2009. They did not have the human genome mapped yet. Point made.
"Ever since, people have been arguing about which version of events is actually the correct one."
No, the theory has survived over 150 years in the meritocratic academic arena. No one is arguing about it anymore except for creationists and intelligent design believers, who do not have more than a hih school education in science.
"There actually is no argument between creation versus evolution - evolution is a fact, creation is a belief and there is no comparison between the two."
Yes, there are so many fallacies in creationism that it is laughable- which is exactly what we do: laugh at it. Yes it is a belief and you can believe whatever you want. For example, you can believe riledup.com is not a website, but in reality, it is.
I would like to ask a simple question. Has any one discovered the missing link? The answer is NO. Is there any step by step trails of evolution of any creature? Without "factual" evidence to support Darwinism in a scientific manner the question is, is Darwinism true or real?. Science is proof/evidence isn't it? So with that aren't you Darwinists following your beliefs? So why do crucify (all puns intended) us the Creationists? Faith is the question do you have faith in Darwin's evilution (yes I spelled it that way think about it...)or do you have faith in God. Make mine God at least I know where I will end up in the end.
I believe God exists. Even if evolution exists on some level, it was in God's plan all along.
-- Posted By Perdie on September 19, 2007God created all that exists and he set them in motion. I am not intimidated by studying evolution because I know that it really doesn't matter. As long as God is in his Heaven, all is as it was meant to be.
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Have you ever wondered why evolution changes on a daily basis "it seems", because there really is no concrete proof that it is the answer,creationism on the other hand never changes it has been the same sence the beginning of time, and will continue to be the same until the end. WHY, because it is the truth, and the truth shall set you free!
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"and the truth shall set you free!"
Now if only the people in power would stop lying to the stupid, we could move forward as a society. When responding please remember, "Because I say so," is not an intelligent argument.
if the wasn't a maker for this world how would it bo created in the beginning , moreover i we are all evolouting why do i look like my grandfather i should have been changed by now
How can anyone deny the facts given in behalf of evolution? They're everywhere!
Evolution or Adaptations does exist. Creatures CHANGE to fit their environment. Look at this link.
-- Posted By DiamondLips on September 21, 2007There is a common argument by creationists that there is no "in between" species in what we call our ancestry line. .
In science a theory is a testable model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise verified through empirical observation
Evolution IS a theory (by definition)... that is the whole arguement against religious ideas. Science comes up with ideas and is willing to test them and keep testing them again and again...and if they find something is wrong with it they are willing to say it is wrong and find the correct theory. It is THAT scientific method that brings credence to evolution and pulls it away from creationism which cannot test its ideas..they say it is so it must be. Science says it is and they experiment to see if it really is!
Be proud of calling evolution a theory because it shows that you really want to know what is going on and you want your belief to be based on facts not faith.
there is just too much evidence weighted against religion.
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Well, for the bible telling people to examine all things, there sure as hell aren't a lot of Christians examining. I have read the bible, and I assure you that while it is an interesting story, I have read far more believable things from J.R.R Tolkien and Chuck Palahniuk. I see no truth in the scriptures. If I see anything, it is nothing but a collection of stories written as metaphorical lessons, unfortunately too many of its followers are too thick headed to wrap their heads around that and instead take them literally.
Here's what your religion sounds like when you really boil it down:
Your god wants you to do everything he says, but if you don't you will be submitted to eternal suffering beyond all imagination. But he loves you very very much.
God is simultaneously himself and his own father and impregnated a woman to give birth to himself so that he could save us from himself.
God makes you live a life before lifting you to heaven or casting you in to hell even though he already knows how every nanosecond of your life will play out.
Also, please tell me how an omnipotent being who is also omniscient can change his mind. If God knows everything, he knows every decision he will ever make, so he knows everything he will ultimately do. Is he capable of changing his mind from what he knows will happen, and is he capable of surprising himself? Also, can God create a boulder he cannot lift? If he can, he is not omnipotent, if he can't, he's not omnipotent.
Omnipotence is an impossible concept.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but unable? Then he is not omnipotent. Is God unwilling, but able? Then he is malevolent. Is God willing and able? Then where cometh evil? Is he unwilling and unable? Then why call him God?
Also, if God has a plan for you, then how exactly can you have free will?
The fact that you tell everyone you debate that you love them is absurd. You cannot love someone you have never met. Love requires time, effort and compassion. Love is the most powerful feeling on the planet, and people like yourself make it seem like it's nothing but a trivial emotion. It sickens me.
Come on. This is ridiculous. Yes, evolution is a theory. So is gravity. The definition of theory in science is much different from the definition of theory in the rest of the world. There is PROOF of evolution! Where's the proof of creationism? Um...there is none.
How can anyone deny my scientific findings?! What ignorance is this?
-- Posted By CharlesDarwin on April 11, 2009I hear time and time again the creationist argument that evolution is just a "theory" and i just want to set the record straight. Evolution is a fact, it did happen, it is still happening. The "theory" is so called because it describes the way in which the worlds top scientist believe that life on earth came to be. There is no argument in the scientific community over "did evolution occur." The only arguments being had are "how did it occur. Those facts being stated, here is my opinion: at the time the bible was written, the earth was flat, virgins were sacrificed, and the leading medical treatment was blood letting. As humans in the evolutionary world, we must let our ideas evolve as well as our practices and technologies. At the time, creationism was the best answer we had. Now that we have evolved for a few thousand years, we have come up with a more logical answer than a magical being that lives in the sky. As always, Intelligent arguments welcome.
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Be proud of calling evolution a theory because it shows that you really want to know what is going on and you want your belief to be based on facts not faith.
"They must find it difficult... those who have taken authority as the truth, Rather than truth at the authority."
-G. Massey, Egyptologist
there is actual scientific evidence that supports the theory of evolution.
-- Posted By jhall85 on September 19, 2007evolution might still be a theory but at least there is some hard, scientific evidence. creationism is simply superstitious speculation. .
there is actual scientific evidence that supports the theory of evolution.
-- Posted By jhall85 on September 19, 2007evolution might still be a theory but at least there is some hard, scientific evidence. creationism is simply superstitious speculation. .
Evolution can be observed in the laboratory using a microscopic and bacteria samples developing resistance to anti-bacterials and it can be seen in the fossil record. There is too much evidence that creatures have adapted over time and that this adaptation has in many cases led to new species altogether. We also know that species which have failed to adapt have gone extinct when conditions no longer favored them (i.e. dinosaurs, unless they evolved into birds).
That said, why is it not possible that God created the world and used evolution as the mechanism for creation? I have always believed that science tells me how things happen and religion tells me why they happen. I do not see this as a debate between creationism and evolution, but rather as an opportunity to see them as a cohesive whole.

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