Taxation: Theft??

Nothing is certain but death and taxes, right? But why don't more people view taxation for what it is...theft?

Posted By csmith71 on August 10, 2008

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If you are married

Posted By bathory313 on August 27, 2008

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Self-Ownership & Coercion

Posted By csmith71 on August 13, 2008

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Pure and simple?

Posted By emmmapeel82 on August 15, 2008

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I must reluctantly agree with them.

Posted By JacobsGT on August 11, 2008

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Taxation is nothing more than theft.

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Self-Ownership & Coercion

-- Posted By csmith71 on August 13, 2008

Certainly we can all agree that we "own" ourselves. Yes? Since this is true, then it also means that no one else "owns" us.

Life, liberty, and property are all inherent rights bestowed upon all human beings, not by governement, but by nature (or god, if you believe in that).

Wages are the product of our time and hard work and is, therefore, our property. Taxation is nothing more than the theft of that property by the use of force (coercion). If a person does not pay their taxes, then the government will use force to make that person pay. What is the difference between that and a mugger approaching a person on the street, holding a gun to their head, and forcing that person to give up their money? Absolutely nothing!

Let's say the mugger then takes the money he has stolen and gives it to a hungry homeless person. Does that make his theft right? Some of you who believe in the story of Robin Hood may believe so, but the answer is no. Theft is theft no matter what happens to the product that was stolen.

Therefore, taxation is theft and it doesn't matter what the government does with the money, even if they are giving it to hungry homeless people. That is what charity is for. Americans are the most charitable people in the world and would be even more so if allowed to keep all their money.

Keep in mind, for every dollar the government takes in, only about $.30 is returned. The other $.70 is used to pay for the bureaucracy of collecting and redistributing that money. On the other hand, charity is completely the opposite, distributing approximately $.70 for every dollar they receive.

Taxation is theft. Pure and simple.

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If you are married

-- Posted By bathory313 on August 27, 2008

with kids, you get rewarded with lower taxes. The more kids you have (even if you can't afford them), the more you get back come tax time. Why should the government reward marriages and baby-makers? Why should it punish single people and childless people? You get taxed on your income, you pay taxes on nearly everything you buy, profits from lotto's benefit schools and roads and such, yet states are screaming for more money, the federal government is screaming for more money, while they blatantly spend our tax dollars as they see fit and without restraint. Thievery.

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I support moving to Social Credit.

-- Posted By JohnUSeed on September 26, 2008

In The Money Myth Exploded (see link below), Social Credit is explained. Enjoy!

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In the current state of Taxation...

-- Posted By xoandre on August 11, 2008

In the United States, the taxt system relies on the poor more than it does on the rich. While it is true that a smaller percent of income is taxed from the Rich and that equates to a huge amount of money, the poor are being taxed at a higher percentage and thus have less money to live on.

Yes, taxes are critical to almost every economy in the world. However, in France they have NON INCOME TAX, they have NO PROPERTY tax, they only pay SALES tax, as there is so much tourism that it buffers their economy enough to make it so.

Now if there was a lower FLAT TAX for everyone and a higher SALES TAX and the businesses were made fto calculate product prices based on the sales tax so that every item rang up an even dollar amount (except for those items less than 75 cents) I think that would be a much better system.

Now, if you consider that tourists and the rich would be spending about the same on purchases and vanity items and indulgences and entertainment, there would be the influx of tax revenue that we need. So a FLAT TAX would be more fair and having a nationwide FLAT SALES TAX might shock some people at first, but in the end it would all work out.

Update:
sorry about the typos
What you're saying is very similar to the fair tax which is a very good idea.
There is nothing fair about the "fair tax". It is still theft.
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Taxes are necessary for the good of the nation.

Person_60

Pure and simple?

-- Posted By emmmapeel82 on August 15, 2008

Would any of you like to live in this country as things were right after the War of Independence? When our government was so toothless that it could only ask states for money to pay for the war? Can you imagine the state of roads, public sanitation?!

One of the other posters used the analogy of the Robin Hood story. I'll take that a step further and look at King John. The only reason he had property and subjects was because his ancestors stole them! They plundered land and people as the spoils of war.

The only reason nations and concepts like property exist is because of theft. The "right to property" is nothing more than sanctifying a past theft of something else. The founding fathers had property so they had to justify ownership.

I'm not in favor of banishing property and living in hippie communes. I have things. I like things. But the reason I have things is because my ancestors were thieves. And I'm grateful to their sticky little fingers.

Person_60

I must reluctantly agree with them.

-- Posted By JacobsGT on August 11, 2008

I'm a business owner, and I have to pay a lot of taxes that sometimes I would rather not, but when it comes down to it, I think it's definitely a necessary evil.

I do think that the Fair Tax is a superb idea.

Go check it out:

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