PC .vs. MAC
This is a classic debate. Which is a better system? The Mac or the PC? I have come to feel for myself that by a large margin the PC is still better. There are a lot of good attributes on both sides, but i think the PC has got the over all upper h
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Posted By eastwind on November 22, 2007
PC is better.
In this link you can see that BOTH have issues.
Ever tried to play any video games on a Mac? Yea right! .
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PCs can do the things that Macs do most of the time in the same efficiency. PCs have a lot that Macs don't, gaming is a big one. I think that going with a PC is a better choice.
If you like paying more money for style, go ahead, but Dell is starting to make "pretty" and "small" computers. Why aren't there any Mac lovers telling what programs they actually use?
And why do Mac people have to pray to Steve Jobs? I don't get it?
What free trial software? Oh, you mean the ones that come with some Microsoft Windows installs? That's more of a manufactorer thing.
Oh, wait, maybe you're talking about the 16,000+ packages immediately available to an Ubuntu user, not to mention the endless others found all over the web and by simply enabling universe repositories. Let me count how many of those are trial versions.
Hold on, let me think.
1. 2., uhm, 3... Oh yeah, 4. 5. Oh, here it is. None.
PCs are superior because they are the same, but more compatible.
-- Posted By murderslastcrow on December 21, 2007PCs are better than Macs due to one thing above all else- compatibility. You can install any Operating System, any device, and every program except for Mac OSX-only programs, and you can even run those with the right software.
Macs need bootcamp just to try.
I bought a MacBook Pro, but the Mac wouldn't support my business needs. So, now I have an expensive Mac, running inferior Windows. So, if you need to interface in the business world, your stuck with the PC
The Mac Market Just Can't Compete In Business & They Make Me Nuts!
-- Posted By i-supportdesk on April 4, 2008Sorry, it's a really 'pretty' machine that makes watching movies fun, but other than that...I hate Mac's. I may have to go check out the 'new' version, but then again, I might just go get a laptop.! Mac's make me nuts...ever see The Mac Rant? This guy has it right!
The Supporting Link is hilarious, but has 2 'F' words in it, so if you offend easily - don't click the link. ;)
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Business has been run on PC for so long, there will not be any change in the immediate future. So to do most anything properly, one needs a PC.
Macs are great for the graphic wizards...
Expensive for hardware and software, the OS is weak and is only made remotely useful thru unix and opensource programming and architecture. Mac has excellent marketing and strong design competencies, but it will never run Windows/Linux off the landscape because it is impractical except for coffeshop/facebook kinds of users.
i support a 300 node network with windows vista/xp/2003 server unix and linux and the one thing people don't ever ask for is mac...there arent applications for it such as Enterprise Resource Programs for Manufacturing/ Quality Control/Engineering.
Try to load Solidworks/Autocad on OSX, you can't
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Hmm, the majority probably doesn't need it, so why give them the option. That again? C'mon, just because I might or might not need something, I should still be able to do it. That "well most people don't care" argument is dated. Most people in the US don't drive manual transmission cars, should we do away with them?
Most of the stuff your running wouldn't even be considered personal computing.
yeah. my first access to computers were macs and i still remember them fondly, yet now there is no clear reason for me to spend the Apple price point for limited hardware expandability, a different set of infuriating os flaws, and something i have little controll over. with pc's in their various permutations i have been able to scale and tweak them to fit multiple purposes with an extreemly narrow budget. but i must concede, if i needed to rended a feture length cg film or do any intensive editing i would drop a "few" grand to tie 5 o 6 gmacs together.
I readily admit that there are some aspects of Mac performance--hardware smoothness, for one--which lend themselves better to certain, usually media-related, applications. Some Mac software is superior in a similar regard. These, among other reasons, mean that Macs are preferable to PCs for some people.
Just not me.
I grew up with PCs; I made the transition from Commodores sometime around the age of 9 or 10. I went through countless versions of DOS before Windows was unveiled, so a large part of my preference for PCs is based on familiarity. That being said, I'm fairly comfortable at the helm of a Mac. It just doesn't feel like home.
And, trendy ad campaigns aside, Apple is still far behind in software compatibility and interoperability, and the solutions that exist tend to be cumbersome.
For those reasons, I'm willing to vouch for the general superiority of PCs--but only on a personal level. There are many things about Macs which rule, too.
First off...
WTF is the point of running WINDOWS on a MAC?
Secondly,
I have used both MAC and PC. I prefer PC. Although VISTA did more for MAC than any other innovation in the history of computing (driving customers to MAC stores), using XP is still better. Eventually, YES I WILL join in the VISTA crowd. But, like the time XP came out, I waited a good year and a half for all the compatibility and bug issues to be fixed.
THIRD,
Macs are great at editing movies and doing music composition on, but they CO$T $0 MUCH!!!
With the right investment, a PC could easily put a MAC to shame. Yes, money is an issue, but if ya think about it, there are software packages on both MAC and PC that are about half the price on the PC as they are on the MAC.
MAC has great opportunities and a lot of pre-loaded stuff, but the "good" packages cost more than the MAC itself did in the first place.
PC is more customizable, with far more options and choices to decide between based on price, value, and quality.
I think PC wins hands-down.
Macintosh hardware is expensive, and you are locked in to using their hardware. With a PC, I can pick and choose the pieces I want and build me own. Or I can choose from a multiple OEMs to try and get the best deal.
There is more software that runs on the PC, as opposed to the Mac. As already stated, if you want to play games then it's no contest -- It's gotta be a PC!
Also, if the Mac is so much better, why does Apple have to advertise that you can run Windows on their Apple products?
The Mac is the cell phone of the computer world. People who don't want to understand how their computer works, buy macs. They like the simplicity of mac and not having to make choices about good software vs bad. Personally, I don't get along with these types of people and don't care to see them on the internet, PC has got my vote.
PCs are FAR better. You can actually fix them yourselfs are add more parts. But with Macs, you have to send them away to get fixed! Or buy a new one if you want more features.. Someone wants more cash in their pocket..
I'll keep this simple, don't have too much time.
The PC has far more options than the Mac has, even with the new Intel Macs.
Microsoft Windows have hundreds of thousands, if not millions more developers to develop software for them, any software that runs on a Mac can be emulated on a Windows OS.
Macs may be inherently more stable than the Windows, but this is because it's based off of Unix and because Mac's hardware is severely limited.
Windows, on the other hand, is superior to Mac OS x (lowercase x to indicate any, not 10) because it deals with so much more than the Mac OS x. It deals with the largest hardware cluster of any OS. It deals with the most possible software of any OS. It deals with being the majority used, which in turn makes it the most targeted. Trust me, if Mac OS has anywhere near the amount of users that Windows has it would be dealing with the same issues as far as virus and spyware.
But here's where PCs really win, the choices. EVERY single piece of hardware in any consumer PC is replaceable and the mass majority are upgradable. This isn't the case for a Mac.
Mac users can upgrade RAM, Video Cards, and that really about covers it. Even things as far as optical drives are either non-user replaceable or ridiculously cumbersome in most cases.
In a PC, the hardware options are endless. Also, the PC is not as limited
to OS choices are Macs are, even Intel Macs.
Are we deciding what's better for the average user or better in total? I still think PCs take both.
Also, I've upgraded All-In-One units on quite a few cases, as well as some Macs. It's no secret that upgrading Macs via hardware is severely limited. For PCs, all in one normally means special tools or sometimes parts only available from the vendor, for Macs, that's almost always the case. Even with the stand alone towers, most hardware comes directly from the vendor (Apple) and because of that, options are, dare I say it? Limited.
Maybe because people who use Macs don't care about doing there on upgrades mean that they shouldn't have the option? Please.
Oh, and as far as things Microsoft Windows can do that OS X can't... Last time I checked OS X didn't have a universal voice command and dictation program that was coupled with AI. Hmm. Also, note I didn't say that there's software only Windows can run and Mac users can't (unless, of course, they 'pretend' to be PCs), I said the HARDWARE options are endless. Mac hardware options, you know, end.
The main thing holding mac back is customization. The PC is like a used car, if you know what your doing, get the right hardware, and get a casual upgrade now and then, you'll have that thing for a long time. Mac is like a nice sports car, that seals its trunk shut so you can't break anything. Albeit its a nice car, but give it a few years and that model will be old news.
On a software standpoint mac has the new tires and aerodynamic body, whereas windows is the slow suv gas guzzler.
Keep in mind that through all this, Linux is the Air-Fueled armoured tank with turrets and nos.
I am going to have to be a bit subjective on this one. For me, personally, it is a no brainer pointing decisively towards the PC. The reason is simple and effective, I would say: I never had a Mac, I never used a Mac for more than 5 minutes and all my knowledge about it comes from generally keeping up to date with the IT world and the ton of reviews that you can find scattered all over the internet.
The Windows based PC was the first thing I got my hands on in the technology department, and that fact alone is an important reason for my preference. Macs do have the disadvantage of becoming more widely spread and talked about later than the PCs, so the environment itself encouraged PC use some years ago, as that was what everybody was using. The occasional Mac that I could see once in a while was something eccentric rather than useful. Even nowadays, when Apple started vigorously promoting their computers, PCs still take the lion’s share of the market, leaving Macs with quite a bit to make up for.
Another trouble with this comparison is that once you have started using one of the two, it is fairly difficult to just switch to the other, even occasionally, because they differ in a lot of respects, the most obvious being in the way they are operated. Once you get used to, say, the Windows system, even though not as visually appealing as Mac OS, you would have to go through the whole readjustment process before you can become familiar with Macs and operate them with ease, and the same works for initial Mac users.
The biggest reason for supporting PCs is derived from the abovementioned delayed appearance of Macs on center stage. As PCs had an overwhelming numeric superiority over any other type of computer, they unsurprisingly attracted the greatest afflux of programmers, designers and IT specialists and then applications, programs and all kinds of software started pouring out for the use of the masses. PCs and Windows based software had their way paved towards becoming the standards, the defaults in computer use, personal or for business. As a result, you can probably find over 10 different software applications for each and every little thing you would like to use your PC for, which amounts to great diversity and gives the user a lot of options. The same cannot be said about Macs, where software applications have been rather scanty until not long ago, when developers started working on those as well.
Out of all those software applications, PC games must be mentioned, as they have turned into almost a separate industry, which has commanded the appearance of different consoles, like Xbox 360, PS3 or the newer Wii. Game developers, like most programmers, have stayed where the money is, meaning the PC business, so different versions of games for Macs usually come out later than the initial release for PCs, if they ever come out at all, that is.
And last, but not least, let us not forget the price tags. Although Apple has cut deep into those ridiculously five-fold prices for their Macs, they still go over what you would normally pay for a PC of about the same specifications.
Mac is too complicated to set up preferences and all those who says people are limiting computer abilities by using PC, how much complicated things do they do on Mac anyways besides going on youtube and chatting online?
I enjoy PCs for the gaming, and MAC for its reliability. It all depends on what you need in a computer. For me its gaming and media.
Mac is better.
a lot of the newer macs can also run windows so i guess mac is way better.
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Do you PC guys serious? there is no question as to which platform is better. just surf the internet for one minute and you'll realize that. i owned a mac for a week and realized that there was no way i would ever, ever, ever consider going back.
Windows sucks, but the simple fact that you can run it if you had to is reason enough to prove which is better.
7 years without virus protection and never a virus ought to convince the rest of you stubborn PC types.
If the Mac sucked so much, then why the hell does Microsoft try so hard to copy everything they do?
Well, personally I run Firefox, on Ubuntu. Yes, I have that option (among other options, some of which you don't have.)
Oh, and Mac has no viruses? You're telling me that no Mac OS has ever had a virus? Yeah, ok.
"If the Mac sucked so much, then why the hell does Microsoft try so hard to copy everything they do?"
Really? Go install WINDOWS on your INTEL BASED MAC and tell me how Microsoft is the only company influenced by others.
Ok, so you decided to post to my profile instead of here, not sure why, so I thought I'd help you out a bit.
You said:
kaikane (1 day ago)
i meant just what i said dipshit. surf for one minute on a pc and watch all the pop up crap and spyware, and malware and all the other crap that infests the pc browser world.
and i didn't say there are no viruses. i said i've never gotten one. 7 years without virus protection. maybe that's pushing my luck, but the whole point is that you'd never get away with that on a pc.
Microsoft sucks. just accept it kook!
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Wow, dipshit?
Did I hit a nerve? Or are you usually this defensive? Nah, don't answer that, I really don't care. Back to the topic on hand.
I have a Windows PC that has AntiVirus and AntiSpyware software. This PC is used by my wife on just about a daily basis. From the time Windows was installed up until now, we haven't had a single virus or spyware infection. As a matter of fact, hold on.
"System Up Time: 384 Days, 8 Hours, 40 Minutes, 21 Seconds" That's the uptime reported by Windows as I post this.
I my Windows system configured to be any less stable than your Mac? I doubt it. Don't think your Mac is great because you haven't had any viruses, as a matter of fact, look at it logically.
Why has your Mac been running for seven years without a single virus while not having any sort of specific antivirus protection. Hmm, sounds to me like 1 of 2 things.
1. Mac OSs development team patches viruses before they spread, thus keeping casualties to a minimum.
Or 2. No one gives a shit about Mac OS enough where there is an onslaught of viruses.
Hmm, which is it? Oh wait, option number one is reserved for the REAL open-source Unix based operating systems.
The PC is junk. It being took over by Microsoft. It seems like everywhere you look, Microsoft is there. I like Macs better. Better software comes with macs. The only bad thing about macs are they cost a little too much but worth the price.
If you're a real Mac user then you should also know that Microsoft Office is being used on Macs now.
It's against everything I used to believe, but now that there's the Intel version, now theres no question. Mac rocks
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I'll never own another Microsoft product as long as I live as long as I can help it.
I hear that if your into doing digital art or any graphic images that a Mac is the way to go. PC's probably had the ability to run more things on them.
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If money were no object, I'd get a newer mac and use Parallels so I could run Windows XP in a virtual window when needed.
PC better than Mac? Come on...ridiculous! In every aspect of a computer (save video games) Macs display superiority. I switched in October of last year to a MacBook Pro and said (happily) goodbye to Windows forever!
Seriously though people.. You have to USE a Mac to be able to diss it.
-- Posted By deepdope on August 8, 2008Everyone that's tried a Mac for more than just 2-3 mins in the Apple store (and sometimes that's enough) has converted.
It's OBVIOUSLY the best machine, and only people who haven't actually used one are against them.
I've been to the Apple store.
Damn, I even -own- a Mac. Mysteriously, however, I haven't converted.
Well, maybe next week, you know, maybe I'll try to convert over to... Nah, not going to happen.
PC vs. MAC is like unto a debate between the pioneer spirit vs. standardization and uniformity. Any tech will tell you that since day one PC has be the forerunner and has a large number of software options and hardware swap ability. MAC has always tried to create an 'appliance' like a blender. So idiots that want to use a computer to look at porn, can't screw it up. Excuse me, I recall the 90's when all the graphics artist bragged about how they couldn't screw it up and had a couple of applications they could purchase for it.
Yes, I know the MFC (Microsoft foundation classes suck) but they allowed all to write for the OS (for a price usually, I know, I know!)
The best option is a PC running a Linux based OS, with windows emulation. This allows the user to run a PC, with all the goodies in the world at their disposal, yet retaining the stability of Linux. The only draw back is you must have an emulator to load, say, Office on your Linux box, and for the goodies, you must have a Linux driver written, which is usually (now) not a problem.
OOps, there is a second draw back, you must have a brain and be a PC based, or Linux based operator to set this all up.
So if you don't fit into this category, buy a MAC download your porn, or make pretty SWISH screen for FOX or CNN, and shut up.
Ahh, After reading some additional post, I forgot to mention that PC's running Windows get slaughtered my hackers. You really have to protect yourself from installation. I do know that my Linux boxes and those of fellow engineers, rarely get attacked buy 90 % of the malicious stuff searching out you on the web to make your life a living hell. PC is the best for the knowledgeable; MAC is for the people that want blender for a specific task.
I have to admit that I thought Macs sucked too.. until I tried one. Please try both before you hate on Macs=)
Nothing is going to get me to believe PCs are better after mine crashing 10 times an hour. Macs get ZERO viruses, run faster and are much better made than PCs because Macintosh actually tries to focus on the current OS unlike PC making Vista before XP was finished.. not to mention not including like any of the features such as vista flip that it was advertised with
How could anyone feel limited by using a PC? It's THE SAME THING AS MAC. THEY'RE BOTH COMPUTERS. Grow up and pick one, goddamn.
once I got my mac, i never went back!
Also, I dont use any antivirus, and i havenot had one yet. Also, no 'DLL driver' issues, or anything of the such!!
If the question is which is better, I would interpret that to mean which is a higher quality offering, and there's no doubt it's the Mac.
HOWEVER, that being said, I own 3 PCs and 0 Macs for several reasons:
1) I already know XP like the back of my hand, and can handle any problems that arise.
2) I'm comfortable 'under the hood' and can easily swap components like video cards, etc. to upgrade.
3) I'm not rich; every dollar counts. and I can piece together a PC MUCH cheaper than I could get an equivalent Mac.
4) I like to play the latest video games for PCs and would be SOL on a Mac.
5) I can't count how many times I've downloaded software or tried to use some web service and thought "thank God I'm on a PC" after reading something to the effect of 'here's the Windows version, Mac version coming later'.
So in conclusion, yes- I believe the Mac is a superior piece of hardware, and I'd like to own one someday. As long as I can run Windows on it too :)
Apple advertises the running of windows because of all the lame business software you PC people keeping ranting on about. I'm glad you guys don't like Mac's specifically because I don't want to deal with the barrage of PC users creating viruses and corrupting the sanctity of our blessed Mac's.
And for games... Obviously the rise in Mac sales has placed a demand on the gaming industry to produce more gaming options for Mac's. And why not? Aside from the Mac Pros which have available video card upgrades, majority of notebooks and iMac's come standard with an Intel GMA X3100 graphics processor or above. Plenty of power for a common game like Halo or Warcraft.
As far as price, yes, it is not reasonable for a multi-national corporation to run Mac's for their operations because of the price issues. But if you are a student, small business owner, or a moderate computer user, price is not an issue. Just Google comparisons to see. You will notice the price differences between most major PC brands and Apple are really not that different.
To prove my point... A friend of mine owned a PC. After 2 years and numerous restores, faulty drives and hours of waiting for virus updates and slowdowns, she has turned to the "Mac Side". I on the other hand have been a Mac user for 10 years now. My current Mac is a 17 inch Powerbook G4 with a 1.5G processor and 2G of memory at which I purchased 5 years ago... still running strong. Still starts up in 20 seconds. Still processes images, new programs, and even... wait for it... OSX Leopard 10.5.
I'd like to see a raising of hands of any PC users that have a 5 year old PC notebook that can handle the illustrious OSX copy cat Windows Vista. Really..? No one? Don't be shy.
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Oh, so you didn't purchase your Mac for games. Geez, I fail to see where that's actually a compliment for your choice.
My Operating System is far more "stylish" out of the box than your OS, plus it has added stability, a STRONG userbase which also contributes to the stability and security of the OS, and I paid NOTHING.
The fact that Macs are generally more expensive means nothing but someone somewhere down the chain someone wants more money. Keep your Macs, exercise your freedom of choice. I understand that the Macs may be better for you emotionally, but that doesn't speak for the facts. In comparison, Macs can't keep up.
As far as viruses are concerned, your beloved Apple company are doing whatever they can to bring in as much business as possible. If they succeed and get majority use, those viruses are coming.
Games, okay, you got a point, but couple your reasons for increased games with your request to keep the "sanctity" of your OS. The more popular the OS, the more games, the more games, the more popular the OS. The more popular the OS, here comes the viruses!
Oh, and for price comparisons, find me a Mac and we'll see if I can find a cheaper and equivalent (or superior) PC that inherently has more upgradability.
http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/index.php/Minimum_Hardware_Requirements
Can OS X run on their minimum requirements?
As far as games go, the market shift is already moved in the popular game department. But even if it's not moving to Mac as fast as PC, I, like many people, didn't purchase my Mac for games. That's why I have a PS3.
As far as price comparisons, I find no recourse in purchasing something stylish and at the same time will utilize what primary programs I use. I'm sure you can make a PC "pretty" and "Cool" but I, LIKE MANY PEOPLE... do not want to go through the hoopla of upgrading my machine. I'm glad Mac's are relatively expensive. Cause it does in fact keep the market low. So the people like yourself, will "keep yer damn PCs".
It's simple to see that people who don't use macs simply haven't used them.
I haven't met a single person that really tried a Mac for everyday use that didn't switch over.
But they don't only switch over, they become complete fanatics because it's so cool.
Give it a try before you judge, because most likely, the answers you give for not liking it are just what you heard from another uninformed hater. :)
Mac is MUCH better than PCs, Here is some proof:
Those ICKY Intel Inside(or whatever, Pentum, etc), commercials WERE MADE ON MACS!!
Also, 100% of Star Wars` Computer created/edited images(or film clips), WERE MADE ON MACS!!!
Not to mention Toy Story WAS MADE ON MAC!
If you look closely at the computers running Juassic Park (in the first movie) you will see that they are Apples!!!! The keyboards and the towers both have apple emblems on them!
Oh Yah, Did I Tell You That Microsoft software distribution (all apps & OSs) into worldwide multiple language markets on CD-ROMs is all created on Macs with Worldscript?
Question for all you PC folk: Own an ipod ? Own an iphone? That's what I thought. you couldn't survive without mac, just admit it.
I do, however, own a Blackberry Curve 8900. (And yes, I can even RECORD VIDEO out of the box.)
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I think that performance wise the Mac wins hands down. It runs smoother and doesn't crash nearly as much as a PC. But the PC has many more programs available to it. When it gets to the point that MAC has the same programs available to it then MAC would dominate
Windows is a good learning tool for people, Because you have to keep re-loading it every 6 months.
-- Posted By westwood on October 24, 2009I have worked on hundreds of (windows)computers for people over the years, constantly having virus and spyware issues as well as being bloated with crap toolbars and software. I was the biggest Mac hater there was, until I actually used one. There is NO comparison in the quality of the OS and machines. I can re-load a Mac to factory settings in about 20 minutes without and interaction. If your time is worth anything to you, Mac is the way to go.

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