Just come out and admit that you have a shitty argument and that you are a prejudiced, homophobic fascist. Straight people and their insanely high divorce rate are fucking your family structure up. Stop trying to scapegoat the homosexuals.

Those who say that homosexuality is eroding society should also remember that as of the 1960's, it was still illegal to marry outside of your race (Loving v Virginia). . And let's not forget that femme coveture said that women were the property of men. That is also ridiculous in this day and time. So, in fifty years, do you want to look back at this absurd idea of homosexuality and cringe?

I am married and happy. Why would it matter to my marriage what Joe & John do in their bedroom? I just don't get it. If gays marry, they are supporting marriage. If they adopt kids, they are having families!

Homosexuality is not a choice. It is based on psychology and biology. Saying that it is bad for values is like saying that being female, or being red-headed is bad for values. (both of these things have been asserted by Christians before) Links:.

American Psychologyical Association.

American Medical Association.

By saying that a child always needs a male and female role model, of the ever popular 'both parents,' you are effectively snubbing your nose at every single parent out there, working their butt off to create a good, loving environment to their kids!. Furthermore, by saying it isn't natural for a child to be born into this type of environment also undermines every person who has adopted or used fertility drugs to have children. Obviously, the cosmos didn't think they should have children either!

When was the last time you saw a child on the news that was abused, molested or killed by one partner or a homosexual couple? .

It's not a choice, it IS....Gay's are a part of EVERY person's environment, every day in every capacity...

Stop fighting it and just LIVE with it....Nobody can, or should change things...

As long as we keep finding reasons to separate ourselves from our fellow humans, there will be strife. Religion, homosexuality, liberalism, conservativism...these are all conducive to a sort of "personal nationalism," if I may coin a phrase. Until we learn to seek what we each consider to be good first within our fellow humans, we will always default to finding what we each consider evil, which leads to endless divisiveness...if we treat each other well, we begin to perceive things that, sometimes by merely recognizing them, make us better people.

Welcoming homosexuals as part of society rather than brushing them off or hating them is not corrupting our values. Gays are more than the stereotypes and offer lots to society, if only given the chance. .

01) Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.

02) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

03) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

04) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn’t changed at all like many of the principles on which this great country was founded; women are still property, blacks still can’t marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

05) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of marriages like Britney Spears’ 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

06) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn’t be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren’t full yet, and the world needs more children.

07) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

08) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That’s why we have only one religion in America.

09) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That’s why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

10) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven’t adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

I've been married for 11 years with three sons and have yet to figure out how homosexuality will adversly effect the fabric of my family.

Oh wait, God's miffed. Even with a moderate amount of religion, isn't God supposed to be the judge? It surely isn't supposed to be me.

Some say that marrige is something to only be shared between men and women. But if its something so special, then why limit it to certain people?

Some say that a child needs to be raised by a man and a women. Oh please. I've been raised by my mother my whole life, and atleast I don't have a closed mind like my brother. Besides, Even if a child has to be made by a women and man, what does it matter if the kid is raised by two women or two men, atleast they have a home. I've had a couple friends who have moved from foster home to foster home because they couldn't be adoptade by gays, and no one else would adopted them.

Personally I'd think it'd be better if couples stoped making kids and started taking care of the kids who don't have parents.

Yes, children deserve a mother and a father because men and women both contribute important factors to a child's life. Also, marriage traditionally and naturally has been men and women, but in this day and age, can we honestly be so picky?

Ideal is great, but ideal isn't always realistic. Homosexuality may be settling in many ways, but if we each focus on our own lives, our own values, and let realistic conditions overcome ideal, homosexuality has a place in this world.

i dont even understand why you would think someone's sexual preference would affect anyone's lives but their own. would it affect your life if i chose to marry someone younger than me? NO

Love is Love. There's no disputing that. There are no boundaries saying love can only be between the opposite sex. It's really simple!!

Homosexuals aren't bothering anyone. They don't pose a threat and aren't commiting a crime for wanting to be with the one they love. If you were a man who loved a woman it is no difference than a man who loved a man or a woman who loved a woman. How can you even judge them? Their people just like you and me!

why do so many people think that homosexuals are any different than us.. doesn't religion preach the values of equality and love for your brothers.. shouldn't that include homosexuals. think about it. its not fair what you are doing to this group of people and when prop 8 passed it officially showed how F-ed up the conservative population of the state is..

"We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal..." As I recall, this was one of the founding doctrines of the American republic and of democratic government in general. If we do not accept others, then in reality we are not treating them equally to us. Acceptance is, then, one of the core values that acceptance of homosexuality is supposed to be destroying.

Our society has moved increasingly toward acceptance on any number of things. I know many won't want to hear or remember this, but not so long ago acceptance of African Americans or women was considered to be destroying the fabric of society. A terrorist organization arose with the purpose of preventing the acceptance of others as equal citizens.

Today, it is time for LGBT Americans to gain acceptance and recognition of their civil rights as so many groups have done in the past. When we get through this, I don't believe for a minute that we will look back and wonder why we did this. Instead, I believe we will look back and wonder why we didn't do it sooner. At least, that is what our history teaches us.

I recently slaughtered a friend of mine on this debate. He believes that marriage should be restricted to being between a man and a woman. We boiled his reasoning down to this: "because that's the way it's always been done".

Which, if you can't see why that logic isn't good enough, then the title of this comment would apply to you.

I believe that everyone is different and unique in their own ways. Im not gay but still believe that everyone is intitled to their own opinion. People who are gay are not destroying our values whatso ever. They should be accepted for who they are. If they destroy your values then its quite obvious that your values were'nt strong enough in the first place... and or simply retarted.

The California Supreme Court will consider on March 5 whether to overturn a voter-approved ballot measure that repealed its ruling legalizing same-sex marriages, a court official said.

The court scheduled oral arguments in three lawsuits challenging the constitutionality of Proposition 8. The court issues rulings within 90 days of arguments.

The California Supreme Court legalized gay weddings in May 2008 in a 4-3 ruling. The ruling was overridden by Proposition 8, which amended the California constitution to define marriage as only between a man and woman. The measure was approved by 52 percent of California voters on Nov. 4. Same-sex marriage is legal in Massachusetts and Connecticut.

Lawsuits filed by the city of San Francisco, the American Civil Liberties Union and gay-rights groups claim Proposition 8 so fundamentally changes the rights of a protected minority that it amounts to a revision, not an amendment, to the constitution. Revising the California constitution requires a two-thirds vote by the legislature before it can put before voters, the lawsuits claim.

Proposition 8 also violates the constitution because it prevents the courts from protecting minority rights, the complaints claim. Supporters of Proposition 8 say the measure is legal because it amended the constitution, and they argue same- sex marriages performed before Proposition 8 are no long valid.

The court will consider whether Proposition 8 is a revision rather than an amendment of the state constitution and whether it violates the separation-of-powers doctrine of the constitution, according to the statement from Holton. The panel also will hear arguments on whether gay marriages performed before the measure passed in November should be voided.

About 18,000 same-sex couples have married in California since June.

My question to those on the opposing side: Who are YOU to say that Gay Marriages are destroying your values, if two people love eachother, and are married, in a healthy, loving relationship, why can't they have children?

The GLBT community is just as capable if not more so than straight people to raise a family... people need to pull their heads out of there asses and realize that they are the ones fucking everything up.

i'm sure that some of it is the fact that i've grown up in a liberal environment, but as a young person today i don't see how people still aren't accepting homosexuality. even my own parents, who are generally very accepting, have an old-fashioned view on homosexuality, which is that it's exclusively a sexual thing, like some strange fetish. the fact is that homosexual couples love each other in the same ways that heterosexual couples do. i see this reflected when i talk to the many gay and lesbian couples i am friends with. when i see how happy they are, i wonder how a person could oppose such love.

I don't see how the way I live my life effects anyone elses life. If my values effect yours then your values weren't that strong in the first place. Open your mind and life is a lot less scary.

I've heard many ignorant reason to why homosexuality is "bad".

Honesatly, is it's because they can't reproduce, shouldn't old couples and infertile be forbidden to marry as well?

If your values are negated the moment you accept someone different than you, your values meant nothing to begin with. To say that accepting someone who is rationally different than you will ruin an entire nation is nothing short of hate an bigotry. It's not like we're accepting pedophilia here. It's just people who are attracted to others who just happen to be the same sex as they are. If you don't like homosexuals, then don't be homosexual. If you don't like gay porn, don't watch it.

Might I add that the bible permits women to have sexual relations if their husband demands it.

so long as their practices do not interfere with what i am doing with my life - i should NOT have the right to restrict other people in what they do with their lives.

People who sit there and say gays are destroying our society....you guys are the ones destroying our society. Move to another part of the world if you hate it so much or make your own island

i'm totally not gay, but i think we should at least attempt to better understand our fellow human beings. it's not a choice (for the most part) but rather something you're born with! it's already been proven scientifically that homosexuality is linked to testosterone levels in people. genetic dispositions determine everything from facial hair to muscle growth and all around masculinity!

i support them im not one no matter how many people at my school say so im not but i support

If God exists...do you think he/she could have created homosexuals in attempt to control over population and give unwanted children homes? Just a thought...

YOU COMPLAIN US BECAUSE YOUR HUSBAND IS FOOLING AROUND WITH MEN. SERVE YOU RIGHT...BT

Its not them messing up our way of life its people like you who are...The close minded people,its 2009

Being a little metro myself, I attract all kinds of gay men, they love me, I'm not offended whatsoever. Everyone wants a piece of this, honestly I'm flattered most of the time.

Okay, first off. People cannot help by bein homosexual. Why the hell should they be punished for their classical conditioning put upon them by their parents and/or people who have raised them? I mean, come on, you guys need to realize, THEY ARE PEOPLE, AND CANNOT HELP BY BEING HOMOSEXUAL! Grow up, and stick to the times morons.

First of all, “destroying” is quite a harsh word to use for something that has been around for thousands of years. Homosexuality probably began along with human life, and developed accordingly, although in more recent times it has an all-out media war to face.

But the media war is just that, a media war, and it targets mainly the public perception on homosexuality. Gay people fight to be accepted and respected as human beings, while also trying to bring coverage to their way of life, while conservationists, religion and politics fight to maintain the current status quo, as they feel the common acceptance of homosexuality might damage their position. However, no matter what side you are on, you are still fighting for influencing perception and opinion rather than a generalization of homosexual behavior, or respectively, its complete elimination.

The most important fact is that even though this conflict is relatively new, homosexuality and exclusive or occasional gay behavior are documented to have existed from as far back as humanity started documenting itself. Therefore, if gays have not “destroyed” our way of life until now, while being a part of it, it is doubtful they will start doing so from now on. They are not trying to bolster their numbers or convince people their way is best, they are not destroying our history long exclusively heterosexual way of life, they are trying to get acceptance and wipe the smirks and strange looks off people’s faces when they are at the mall or walking around town. That is what perception and opinion is all about, and the obstacles are nothing out of the ordinary, as you could sooner move a mountain than change a man’s opinion.

Still not convinced? Still thinking gays are here to destroy something other than prejudice and misconception? Take a quick look in the animal kingdom, which is pretty much as God left it – for those bringing religious arguments into the discussion. You would think that if homosexuality is such an abomination, there would surely be no place for it in the pure and entirely instinctive mind of animals. Guess again. It is just as much a part of their lives as it is of ours, and they have had it for a long time too. Did homosexuality destroy their way of life? Have entire species disappeared because nobody liked the other sex anymore? Well, entire species have disappeared, but humans have more to do with that than homosexuality.

Back to our familiar human species, just look around you for a second. Gays would not do something that we would not do ourselves, if we are talking about our way of life. Walking around town, which do you see more often: fast-food joints filled with fatty oily snacks or gay couples holding their hands? You can safely say that the fast-food industry or, more recently, the economic crisis we created (not the gay people), have done more than homosexuality to truly destroy our way of life.

we dont see animals os different spacies having sex with their same sex animals, sex with opposite sex is natural and with same sex is run from nature, with all respects to my bro and sis.thanks

A person does not choose their sexual preference. When I was a very young kid 3 & possible younger, I had at least 2 ppl the age of 15 - 18 make me give them oral sex as well as some other disturbing things that I won't mention here. I am currently seeking hypnotherapy & other forms to try & understand all of this. I strongly feel I am a gay male today because of the influence of this. I cannot prove it but I can tell you that I did not just one day choose to be gay. So my question to some of you ppl, can you honestly hate me for being gay if it was caused from these ppl when I was 3 years old. If you want to hate me that's ok cause I am really used to it. But I can tell you I would give anything if I could have a little boy or girl of my own & I would love that child so much & I would NEVER in all my life EVER do to them what these ppl did to me. Oh & by the way the ppl that did this to me are str8. I'm sure if there is God he would really approve of what they did.

Homosexual activity has been well documented since before the time of Jesus. So what makes anybody think they can stop it from happening? I imagine that most gays are sexually mishandeled as children. Your first sexual experience usually determines what you will or won't prefer. Furthermore, if I should let what another person does in bed have an affect on my life by producing feelings of hate or fear. I am the idiot. I am straight but I know better than to try and destroy something that's been around for thousands of years (more than two), possibly becoming more and more prevalent but may be only thecoming out of what's been there all the time (how could I know) and will surely out live me. Gay life does not appeal to me personally but it is a fact. And as long as some A-hole doesn't put his hands on my kids and make them gay, let them exist in peace.

Even if homosexuality DID damage our cultural values, so what? Maybe the values we have aren't that great anyway. These are the same values that brought us the holocaust and innumerable wars, after all. Why not revise our values to include open-ness to variety and alternate modes of living?

I've seen a number of documented instances of homosexuality in nature.